New Order - 316

Starring:Bernard Sumner, Stephen Morris (III), Gillian Gilbert, Peter Hook, New Order
Director: David Barnard
Studio: Rhino / Wea
Product Type: DVD

Average customer rating:

Sumner cannot dance......
Tartan hit it on the head
I wish I'd been there in '81...
New Order excelent on DVD Track Listing
Here are the young men (and the middle-aged men too...)

New Order - 316
Starring: Bernard Sumner , Stephen Morris (III) , Gillian Gilbert , Peter Hook , and New Order
Director: David Barnard
Manufacturer: Rhino / Wea
ProductGroup: DVD
Binding: DVD

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ASIN: B0000AGQ3K
Release Date: 2003-08-12

Customer Reviews:

Sumner cannot dance.............2007-01-16

New Order sounds great, but they just do not put on a good live show. Sumner is awkward at best and it distracts from the whole thing.

The music is okay. If I had previewed the disk before I bought it, I would of waited for a sale.

Before anyone bashes, I have loved New Order (and Joy Division) for many many years and maybe they have put on good shows, but this one is not one of their best. The music is good, but not great. I absolutely love live music, but this is not up to the standard I like from live music.

Tartan hit it on the head.......2006-02-25

I agree completely with Tartan Mercer's review. I went one step further and shut off the Reading Festival portion when Barney started whooping it up during his hideous rendition of 'Isolation'. Understandably bands get numb to their own songs after playing them live hundreds of times, but I don't consider Ian Curtis' lyrics something to give lip service to. Either sing it with some heart or don't sing it at all.

I also wasn't thrilled by the typical rock-star antics on stage. Of course they can do whatever they want up there and a lot of people love them for it. I only wish these two concerts weren't placed side by side on the same dvd as it is like watching two very different bands. I just don't happen to care for the second band all that much.

I give this dvd 4 stars because the 1981 segment deserves 7 and the Reading festival 1.

I wish I'd been there in '81..........2005-01-07

There are two concerts on this DVD, one from '81 and the other from '98.

While both are good, the '81 concert is truly something special. While I must admit it's funny to see Peter Hook in an ultra skinny "new wave" tie and Gillian with HUGE hair and Siouxie-esque makeup, the intensity of the band at that time is incredible to see. They're focused and absolutely pound out their early tunes with a fervor that just doesn't come across in their studio albums.

Seventeen years (and thirty pounds) later, the band's outdoor Reading concert was good, but lacked the tension and pensiveness of the earlier show. The insecure, wound-up band of '81 had given way to a confident but less serious band in '98. Bernard Sumner goes from practically leaning on the microphone for support in the earlier show to doing aerobics, jumping and leaping about whilst they play songs from their late '80's "Low-Life" album heyday in the later one. I really wish they had a concert from that time period instead of circa '98, but hey, I'm grateful just to be able to see these guys again.

There's also a "documentary" that's actually just an interview of the band with flashbacks of their old videos and some concert footage. It isn't really a documentary and comes off as an afterthought.

It may not sound like a rave review, but for New Order fans, a flat out five star rating.

New Order excelent on DVD Track Listing.......2004-09-01

this is the best New Order on DVD and I am waiting for the videos of NewOrder on DVD the songs on this DVD are almost all the best songs,this DVD

the songs on the DVD

New York 18 November,1981

1)ICB
2)Dreams never end
3)Everything's Gone Green
4)Truth
5)Senses
6)Procession
7)Ceremony
8)Denial
9)Temptation

READING FESTIVAL 30 August 1998

1)Regret
2)Touched by the Hand of God
3)Isolation
4)Atmosphere
5)Heart and Soul
6)Paradise
7)Bizarre love triangle
8)True Faith
9)Temptation
10)Blue Monday
11)World in Motion

Bonus: in conversation

Highly Recomended for New Order FANS

Here are the young men (and the middle-aged men too...).......2004-05-13

There's no doubt that this DVD will be warmly received by NO fans, and this is proven by the effusive response of the reviews posted here. However, the reviews I've seen are preaching to the converted, and it ought to be pointed out that those who are not die-hard NO fans will be unimpressed by some of the performances on this DVD.

The simple fact is that New Order are not, and never have been, a great live band, their music relying heavily on studio production to cover their musical deficiencies. This is glaringly evident in the "Taras Shevchenko" concert, where the band are stripped of Martin Hannet's glistening production. Barney sings like a teenager whose voice is breaking (particularly atrocious are his vocals during "Procession"), Gillian Gilbert plays the keyboards one-fingered, and Hooky hacks away at his bass, which lacks the deep resonant sound of NO's recordings. Nevertheless, despite all this, the '81 gig has a certain charm about it- Sumner is an under-rated guitarist, and Steven Morris puts in a typically sterling display. The performance of Chosen Time (wrongly labelled as ICB) is a highlight, as are the renditions of Truth and Senses, which are far superior to their leaden recorded versions. For all New Order's musical deficiencies, there is an undoubted "edge" to the sound, which is what makes the gig strangely compelling.

The '98 gig at Reading, (which i was lucky enough to attend!), is like a greatest hits package, with slick, clean sound quality and a better vocal performance by Barney, although his guitar playing is less interesting than in the '81 concert. Barney and Hooky also adopt some rock-star posturing during the gig which seems unbecoming of New Order, who have always been the unlikeliest of rock stars. Perversely, although the performance is slicker than "Taras Shevchenko," it lacks something of the edge and coolness of the older concert, which just goes to show that musical slickness comes at a price sometimes .

The DVD is excellent value, though- it offers two concerts for the price of one, and allows the viewer to compare and contrast the earlier, cult band with their later, more commercial incarnation. Certainly there are few bands who have evolved as much as New Order, or have such a sparkling back catalogue.

The interview is also worth watching- it's good to see a band that don't take themselves too seriously. I particularly enjoyed Barney's tongue-in-cheek comment about not being able to make out the words sung in pop songs these days- this, from the man who mumbles his way through half of the Taras Shevchenko gig!

Customer Reviews:

Sumner cannot dance.............2007-01-16

Tartan hit it on the head.......2006-02-25

I wish I'd been there in '81..........2005-01-07

New Order excelent on DVD Track Listing.......2004-09-01

Here are the young men (and the middle-aged men too...).......2004-05-13

In all, it's a must-have for NO fans, but I don't expect the live performances to win any converts.

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